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RE: Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?
I was
under the impression that this was a bit unclear....
The
mandatory recount using the "same" method as the original......isn't that the
problem?
doesn't this make for complete nonsense as far as an electronic recount
is concerned?
I
wasn't aware of any SoS ruling that dealt with this problem.....mostly an
archaic, out of date law.
I
*was* under the impression that the VVPAT was an official ballot box. Can this
be used in a recount?
How do
the laws treat the VVPAT versus the electronic MBBs, as far as a recount
goes?
It
makes perfect sense to audit the paper votes and use them in a contested
re-count.....but is it legal under SoS rules?
Bo
Greetings,
I think I heard Josh say that in the event of a
recount, a discrepancy between the original electronic tabulation and a
recount of paper ballots would be resolved in favor of the paper
ballots.
Did state law
change, or has it been reinterpreted to where this is clearly the
case?
Also, just
curious how count-friendly the paper ballots on the Hart system are: i.e.
thin, flimsy spooled paper vs. say, the color coded cards of the Swedish
system? ( I believe Josh said Hart paper is
spooled.)
kell
Joe Pezzillo
<jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'm
not disputing that members gave testimony, or ultimately if Bo is
or
isn't a member of his own choosing at any given time (although he
did
"back off" from the group in 2004, you may have read).
I'm disputing
the representation that CVV was invited to participate.
You may recall
that it took Neal McBurnett speaking out of turn to
force the Republican
member to acknowledge the public, and I don't
recall that anyone ever
said "I'm here speaking on behalf of CVV".
Your lawyer was there, she
might recall that I complained that CVV
was not represented (as well as
three other citizen action groups),
and that in fact sometime after
that, you must have added the name
CVV or Citizens for Verifiable Voting
to your committee roster.
Linda clearly represented that CVV was
invited to participate on par
with the other named members such as the
League and the parties.
Show us the invite you sent to CVV to
participate, or is there one?
Who signed the non-disclosure on behalf of
CVV? Where is CVV's copy
of the binder?
I think you have
misrepresented. You are the one who chose to include
mention of CVV in
your report, and Linda is the one who chose to
attempt to agglomerate
the good will of the CVV common law mark and
confuse the "marketplace"
by suggesting an association where none
exists.
For servants of
the public trust, this type of intentionally
deceptive behavior is
unconscionable.
I await the invitation to participate or a
retraction, you can even
send a bitmap PDF and I don't think anyone will
complain about that
this time.
Joe
Joe
Pezzillo
PO Box J
Boulder, CO 80306
USA
jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx
303-938-8850
On Apr 7, 2006, at
8:45 AM, Liss, Josh wrote:
> Original email failed to reach some
of the intended recipients, so
> I'll try this again. Please see
response below.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
Liss, Josh
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:39 AM
> To:
'=SMTP:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx'; Salas, Linda;
>
'=SMTP:cvv-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Cc: Bailey, Shelley; Reichert,
Marianne; Bo Shaffer (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: Did Linda Salas Lie to
Boulder County?
>
>
> Joe,
>
> I think you
have misunderstood. Linda said a member of Citizens
> for Verifiable
Voting was *ON* the Evaluation Team. Bo Shaffer is
> a member of CVV,
is he not? Hasn't he been a member of CVV for a
> long time? Has Bo
been kicked out of CVV?
>
> Linda also said that testimony was
heard from such groups as CVV,
> the Paper Tigers, and the Center for
People With Disabilities. As
> a member of CVV and the Paper Tigers,
you did testify before the
> RFP Evaluation Team, didn't
you?
>
> The answer to your question is "NO". Linda Salas did
not lie to
> Boulder County.
>
> I hope this
clarification helps.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Josh
Liss
> RFP Evaluation Team Chair
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Joe Pezzillo [mailto:jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx]
>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:54 PM
> To: Salas, Linda; Liss, Josh;
CVV Voting
> Cc: Bailey, Shelley; Reichert, Marianne
> Subject:
Did Linda Salas Lie to Boulder County?
>
>
>
>
4/6/2006
>
> Boulder County Clerk Linda Salas:
>
>
Today, in testimony before the Boulder County Commissioners, you
>
stated that Citizens for Verifiable Voting had been invited to
>
participate in your latest RFP evaluation committee.
>
> Please
immediately produce the invitation you sent to CVV to
> participate or
publicly retract your statements.
>
> A Boulder County attorney
and the Commissioners have been CC'd on
> this e-mail.
>
>
If you do not produce the invitation you claimed you extended to CVV
>
or retract your statements, the next step will be to present this
>
information to the press.
>
> You have made false statements
before the Boulder County
> Commissioners before (1/29/2004), I can
compile a complete list if
> necessary.
>
> You may make
your written statement of retraction to the CVV mailing
> list, a
statement from your staff will not be sufficient.
>
> Joe
Pezzillo
> PO Box J
> Boulder, CO 80306
>
303-938-8850
>
jpezzillo@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
"Sapere Aude." Have courage to use your own reason.
Kant
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