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RE: letter to the editor, 11/11
Kell,
 
Avante Paper 
is not spooled.  Each ballot receipt is cut and a separate piece of paper 
in the printer ballot box.  They made a point of making this part of their 
presentation that I attended.  They said to be wary of Sequoia or any other 
vender that spools paper because you may be able to figure out which ballot goes 
with which person if combined with a time stamp or video of the polling place. 
 
It is not 
ink it is a thermal print which is flimsy but no ink involved.  
 
I agree with 
the systems currently on the table Avente is the best but it is still sup 
standard to our goal of a full printed ballot that is then optically scanned for 
the tally.
 
Alan 
Crandall
 
Paul,
 
You're sorta right: Avanti is the only vender who showed us an already 
operating and functioning voter verifiable paper ballot.  But it falls 
short in a few important respects:
 
1) Paper is spooled -- meaning any handcount would be extremely problematic 
because each separate ballot would have to be cut/separated from ajoining 
ballots.
 
2) Paper is about as flimsy as the cheap toilet paper used in gas 
station bathrooms, meaning it won't handle much handling by hand counters.
 
3) Ink deteriorates rather rapidly (either due to the paper type or the ink 
or both).
 
4) What it prints out isn't the complete context of the ballot, only what 
you voted for or against.  That is, it just says "County Issue For" 
and "Sherriff Jones" w/o the other options in context.
 
5) The print is so dang small you have to have a magnifying glass to read 
it.  Not a terrible thing, since Avanti actually supplies a magnifying 
glass.  But imagine several hundred hand counters with several hundred 
magnifying glasses.  Do-able but, really, can't we do better?
 
6) As long as Colorado disallows recounts by any method other than the the 
original tabulation method, the Avanti spooled paper ballot is utter 
useless -- except maybe ass (pardon the pun) toilet paper.
 
kell  
Paul Tiger 
<tigerp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It 
  appears to me that Avante has the upper hand. They do produce a 
  paper
ballot, and it can be the primary ballot method. Their system puts a 
  2D
(blocked bar code) at the top of each ballot, and that can be read by 
  any
scanner, not just theirs. They can also be hand counted, because they 
  print
out the voters selection.
Avante is the only vendor that can 
  do this without modifications to their
system. Everyone else would have to 
  re-write software and add on new
hardware.
Paul 
Tiger
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